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Embracing Detachment: A Monastic Journey
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This talk delves into the concept of renunciation within monastic life, emphasizing its significance across various religious traditions. Notably, it addresses the role of renunciation in Christianity, referencing the practices of St. Pachomius and others who highlight the spiritual and communal dimensions of becoming a monk. Renunciation is portrayed as both a freeing act and one of profound dedication to spiritual practice, contrasting with societal roles or familial ties.
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Stelbel by St. Pachomius: This text illustrates the practice of renunciation within the monastic tradition, showing the confession of sins and the spiritual freedom achieved through renunciation.
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Coptic Texts on Apotactics: Discussed to highlight the term "apotactic," which signifies someone who has renounced worldly bonds to dedicate themselves to monastic life.
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Petronius' Book of Precepts: Referenced for its rules and guidelines meant to establish the ideals of communal monastic life focused on spiritual practices.
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Catecheses by Theodore: These teachings emphasize the importance of renouncing material and familial attachments to achieve spiritual enlightenment and communal harmony within monastic life.
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Paralipomena: This work is noted for its narrative style similar to that of the Gospels and serves as a source of teachings that were not part of formal monastic rules but offer insights into monastic life practices and challenges.
AI Suggested Title: Renunciation: Path to Spiritual Freedom
Side: A
Speaker: Armand Veilleux
Location: Mt. S.
Possible Title: Asceticism
Additional text: #3 428
Side: B
Speaker: Armand Veilleux
Location: Mt. S.
Possible Title: Asceticism cont
Additional text: 428.3
Speaker: Armand Veilleux
Location: Mt. S.
Possible Title: Asceticism - Renunciation
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The word is broad enough to include all the aspects of . When in the ,, we want to . We always say that he had a very intense and very great . I would like to treat one aspect of ,, the most essential aspect, renunciation. And this is also .. And the essence of Buddhism renunciation. But I will speak here about renunciation from the back of the sources, trying to let the sources speak for themselves, especially since those sources are not theoretical elaboration simply in the future of the facts.
[01:22]
Renunciation in Greek is so essential that in our sources, for someone to enter the monastery is for him to make his enunciation about the renounce. But you can view the word renounce without . The one who has renounced is the one who has renounced. That's it. For example, ,, makes a long confession of all the things . Accordingly Egyptian tradition. And it says, . And we find several in other ,, for example,
[02:29]
The other is . After they renounced all they had for this vocation. They got renounced everything, but . Over the other days, they made it the last big renunciation. having made the renunciation . In the topic documents, the month is apothectic. We have forged that word with apothectic that someone who has made renunciation. What can they move them? Someone was .
[03:33]
For example, . And the Duke of the military general is searching for nations that is hiding somewhere. When he takes his hiding in the back of the back of the back, he takes to the back. And .. [...] During the time Patronius lived with his brother, John, beginning at his life, his disciples had to meet after his brother, who had not come back to New York, and he had to take a box and water, and he came to live with him.
[04:38]
So the doctors lived in the life of Jesus together, and they had to do again. And they had some tension when they started building. Small circle, and a child wanted to build a cell for two. And my condition wanted to make it larger, to receive people who will come, receive . And so what my condition wanted to think was the child was destroyed. OK, wait. It was totally destroyed. It was kind of like an old life train in a cave to get others that year. So the life says they live in great renunciation, the best praise they can give. For they did away everything they earned through their much one work, except what they absolutely needed.
[05:40]
They both lived in great renunciation. They kept nothing, say, two works of bread, baby, and a bit of salt. The idea of work is used to get some of the possibility of giving on to other people. And to keep understanding what restricted need for themselves. So renunciation is not simply that we are going to work where we were. We have the position we have. We have a lot of parents. But it is not that we are living in a state of relaxation, keeping what ourselves only about restriction need. And one type of years you see is first group of disciples. It taught with them to know whether they would be able to relance their parents .
[06:43]
First thing, we want to know how many that question, whether it is to relance, relance, The pronunciation is not simply something . The pronunciation is not what I get. And to give myself advice to people . And if you don't have this second damage, first part doesn't have any meaning. There is the real person that we lost each. And this attitude that I was done right in the beginning of this experience has been
[07:49]
put it in one of the triceps of ,, which as such, . One of them leads, when someone comes to the door of the mother wishing to bring out the world, and be added to the number of the brothers, is good. are just the same . But the second one is . So he examined him, and he went through trial, and carefully made himself known as he And then he can renounce his parents as per his own possessions.
[08:57]
We see by these three quotations that the mind must renounce not only material possessions, but also many other realities. But when someone comes to the monastery, he may have riches from the . He may have a profession in the world. the part time. But there is one reality that anybody has to know. It is the pledge of power. Holy monks wanted to follow the gospel, and the gospel has some very strong statements about renunciation to what was happening. If anyone had to be without beating his father, father, white children, brothers, sisters, He appears on his own life to . It was a very difficult question to find out how to .
[10:00]
It was . Not all of them found a balance of solution. But the striving was to find a way to . In the last point of view, we had a discovery killer, who had counted upon the street very young. Some type of . He came . And some time after he came, his mother came to see me. And since she heard that one day she came with letters from the bishops to let her see her son.
[11:16]
So here's our discovery in the . When she came north with her other son, ,, she had a little brought to . When he had read the letter, he called and said to him, doubtless, you will go out to meet your mother and your brother so that she may be satisfied. All the Lord, because of our Father, the bishop, I swear to us about that. If I go out to meet her, will I not be found? Will I not be found at all before the Lord? For I may constress this commandment. which is written in the Gospel.
[12:19]
It is going to be a witness to my heart. God forbid that I shall sin against him because of love of parents for laying in the flesh. Our Father Procobius replied, If you wish to look at the gospel ,, it will prepare you to do that. So he has to be responsible for taking the decision himself. And he does that . And that should be well-careful in the customers. But before the party, She was able to climb on the roof. And the clerics of the village told her about what to walk in the first morning at such a time.
[13:26]
And so she climbed on the roof, and she could see her son. But it was not a great constellation. You had the other son that had to stay. So she loved it. That the version of the Greek life, and the Greek life, which My interpretation is a bit posterior. It's a bit more indefined, because she decides to stay as a dog. So evolution has to be made . But again, after ,, has become .. always refused to see .. And he called . Then you will see the difference between .
[14:27]
And . And he says, . At the beginning, as one is with . But we give it special care and . It is the same with people. You will find that the sense of human weakness, but also of human growth, that human life is . And spiritual life has to be a growth. And you have to respect But if you study the special needs of each one and the special strength, the specific strength that it will cause or just the
[15:40]
In that respect, this is the most difficult for each other. And he has also some sense of humor. Because just a few days later, there is another woman who wanted to go and visit this family. And a couple of years will decide to send him to this family. And he will ask a fellow to accompany him. Among the brothers, there was still another one who said about asking Father Precolius, if you do not allow me to go home to see my family, I would go home and pick up the seat over again. It's a kind of black looking man, but I used to accept the black looking man. At once Precolius called the other on seat too. I know your wisdom, but I didn't sympathize with all of those who are distressed. I don't. Now, he would take his brother in charge.
[16:48]
He would go with him to visit the spirit. And he would humor him in all things, so as to bring him back to us. For there is much that is excellent in him. But the mistress is not excellent. And I only go through the things that he doesn't understand yet. But at all, we know that it is God's will. until we have saved ourselves from . And it is only later, after he had written, that gradually, by reading cross-conferencing, . In the rules of practice, we find an attitude on this question that is closer to . It is stated that when a brother or a person comes to the monastery, the man shall be given a companion, and he will go to the gatehouse to see his image.
[18:07]
And once someone in the family of one of the martyrs, it's important to see that man will be simple along his companion. The visit is sick. But priority is it is removed, but we recommend that. If someone comes here to do a visit, and if your person is sick, is sent to be seen. There is a child we need there in . If the relatives of the month bring in food. He would not receive it himself, but he would call the portal. And the food would be given to the portal. And the portal would bring that food to the infirmary for the sick water. But before bringing it to the infirmary, he would give a little bit of what received it. So if my parents come, I may bring some candy.
[19:07]
I don't. I cannot receive the candy. And we give that to the portal for the sick. But the father would give little to me before. So it's a kind of human understanding that we feel in this position the desire to be human while maintaining the need of a profound attachment on the part of the mother himself. If the mother must be angry, he must all the more renounce honors, high hopes, jobs, and so on. in order to become homeless in different curses and praises. There is an instruction which is called instruction. I translate the catechesis by instruction. There were several instructions given to the master every week in the monastery. There was three instructions given by the father of the monastery,
[20:11]
like the housemaster. You know that the .. And there was a housemaster with Sega. And there were many houses. And at the top was . And the houses were divided according to services . One house of the , one house of the , and so on. Usually the idea of service is that there also be a place for And the housemaster used to give the instruction to the people of his house twice a week on Wednesday and Friday.
[21:32]
And that was the custom in the early church in the Egyptian church The class is considered as the kind of . It's not simply a personal individual modification. It's something that we covered. We didn't get . But we think more of the experience of what that is. The days of catechesis are the basic times. And the superior of the world appears to be catechesis on Sunday, two on Sunday, and one on Saturday. Some of them have been preserved in the text of their lives. And the two other catechesis have been preserved in other manuscripts.
[22:38]
And one of the long catechesis is entitled catechesis of instruction to . And in that long text, . So that's a lot of good work. Hold on for people how it's critical to prohibition or to an acquaintance.
[23:43]
I can use exhorting him to humble himself, not to seek out the honor, and to spoil the maid-loving. Isn't that the quote, one text of that? He says, if someone curses you, put up with him children, hoping that God will bring about what is best for you. As for your son, do not curse the image of God. The image of God is your brother, the technical expression. When he speaks of your brother, the image of God is not the image of God. It is me himself, he said, the one who matters me out of the tunnel, and the one who curses me out of the curse. If, on the other hand, someone praises you, you must be happy about it, but which is with them, woe to evil, it all praise you. You should be indifferent to followers, and you're already at peace with God, and not seeking to find your identity, something exterior to yourself.
[25:01]
But I could just give a similar contribution. And I will meet with someone who had really sinned before coming to the monastery. Show someone who tells you who are personally vivid with gratitude and serious. Many times, I am angry with God with my impure and abominable actions. Be nothing for human love. For fear, your efforts should be poor. Be nothing. The devil shall validate you what your . In the second line of the plot, two other left drives the path to salvation, and there was a full renewal path on the top of the rock, with a big rock on each side. That was going to tower the east, the reservation. And then on the board side, the desires of the flesh on the right of the park.
[26:06]
of his dangerous . I might renounce human knowledge and armor when he came to the monastery . But that ,, seek a new form of domain in the community. And . And this is one of the reasons that he gives for not wanting his monks to become a priest. He said the truth looks pretty much the same as St. Philip, not desire to become a priest. But if a priest comes to the monastery and wants to become a monk, people like somebody else. if he is ready to accept .
[27:11]
And it is the reason it's here. It is better not to seek after such pain in our Canadian, lest this shall be an occasion of strife and be that they don't schism to arise in a large number of times . In the same way, the spark cuts into the . For, unless it is quickly quenched, it will destroy a whole year's labor. So it is with the . You see from all those legs that fight the area, the was considered as a kind of . And one may also try to find human theory in that extra casting or in doing special careers are in some form of extra form.
[28:34]
ascetics of our religion. We read about . We read in the . The are one of the The main source are the lives of ,, and then the epistle or letter of Bishop . And then you have the ,, the word that means things left aside. There were a series of short stories that were not introduced in the lives, and were preserved as a series of texts.
[29:46]
The lives were built pretty much like the gospel. First, there were a series of narratives. Each one of the narratives were written down. And some of them were . That's what . In one of those texts, ,, we read that one day, was sitting in the monastery with some other brothers. The certain brother of that monastery were . And he had two masks instead of one, and he had made two.
[30:53]
And he had placed the mask in front of his cell. He had, of course, at the place of a performance, so that we see our . And we are hoping to be praised for this day, such as Eve. Instead of ,, then with a good sense of humor, obliging as part of this event to make two months and be four, five months. You can't put your . The greatest, more subtle temptation for a long time, is probably the desire of some important problem in the community. It seems that this was the beginning of the problem. People asked if people accept to be the .
[32:00]
Other ones seem to have aspired to offices since forciations when they assume the leadership of the . It says, I see some of you wanting to receive titles and to rule or to become a master or something else. I think that's all the time. In the past, in the time of our father, you see, in every human community, right from the beginning of the second generation, people start to believe that they were in the generation. In the time of our father, it was much better. But our brother, except for obedience, nobody wanted to become great. The greatest is the one who I said, .
[33:04]
And in his leader, his leader, his testament, he tries to convince all people who have responsibility in the community of that responsibility. We find something very similar in credibility. And of course Jesus himself was hard enough to step up when he realized that he could not maintain a creation of the . And he asked to take his place. And when he became superior to the ,, he used to both the local superiors, so that they would not be attacked Perhaps there might be another reason, too. Because when the other became superiors, we got superiors on the .
[34:06]
And one of the superiors not trying to separate his ministry from the congregation, but maybe by not believing superiors in the same history too long. This situation will be a barrier. But I think the first reason was that they wouldn't become attached. I need to tell them that now that my boundaries, you who are leaders of the public places, leaders of , people that . But it means the one who leads . You are leaders of the holy places of the monastery, which we gave to our righteous father.
[35:09]
I hear . Some in fact are saying, this monastery is mine. . Others, this object is . Now, things of this ought not to be pleased here. But if you really are prepared with all your part to act in a spirit of renunciation, like that of our righteous father, then let me show that you confess to me, I am not the leader of the community, but we are prepared to submit to . On one occasion, they had an assignment, and they had made assignments again in this month. Some of them had built new houses and synapses to meet the brother's name. So they had built the nursery. And so they become more attached. After we had made the assignments, he said to them, you see, I have assigned you as to believe my girl's will, because this is for the salvation of our souls.
[36:17]
about the brothers who are with us. If that we had then someone from a difficult community to an easy one, and he rejoices within himself, I assure you that the Spirit of God is not in such a way. Or on the other hand, if someone from an easy community, whom we are assigned to a difficult one, I tell you this one has learned the Spirit of God. People have to be detached from the community spiritually or from the pleasure of being with community or also not to reject the move from a difficult one to a need one. Then the second, the next part of this evening would be the deeper part of renunciation, renunciation to the evil part
[37:45]
of the . And then I will try to discern through the sources what were the motivation of the . Any questions? Just one. You said me earlier.
[38:46]
You're talking about seriously located one big company. It's good to get everything about mucs, and what's happening at the process. I still have mucs start as soon as . three decades of religion, one of the bishops asked Athanasius to partake so that he could be put in charge of all . And . But Athanasius said, we have to respect his rule. I knew about it, but I've heard a lot about .
[39:50]
Actually, I've heard about that, at least, to other people. And people will stop coming from outside . And then people tell me, like, I love speaking of the Greek. And you will have to gather them special hearts, the hearts of the Greek speakers. would be another . And it would become the . And he would be the head of that class. So people were coming to my . And some of them would be . Three of them, the Egyptian, who asked for . who would be the disciple of the successor, but who was in charge of three of the women's students up to that time, who was the head of the monastery before he came back with him.
[41:02]
He asked to integrate this with him, and he asked for a very rich family. And he decided to become a mother. And he went through . And then other people came from . And then his father and his daughters . So they were rich landowners. They were a few rich landowners. had nothing and not just .. [...]
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He knew what to read, but he had no . But when comes, and he knows . And one day comes ,, and so on. So . It creates the world to help them. And there is another old one who knows . But they are now very rapidly learning. According to the ,, he decided to help them. But it was very successful because .
[43:17]
But here again, you have a story that's been embellished after . And the next morning, you can speak more than any doctor . The communities required all these months to learn how to read . What was the first thing they learned at the ,, because they were under the authority of the ,, as long as they were not ready to be accepted via the . So the . And I wanted to know how to read, because you had to learn scripture.
[44:18]
And it was very important for them to know that a large part of the scripture was . So before reading, we accepted that the syntax is there to learn black heart. And she's the beautest of it . Why not? Does it quite a minute? And it is surprising that the period were very, very cheap. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Inside the manuscripts of the .. It's very important for the establishment of the .. And the situation was the most part, the poor substance of the .. I think the problem was .. At that time,
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We have . We don't see any . Please.
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